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Life and Learnings from a CIA: A Discussion with Lucia Pizano-Urbina from Broward Health

Send us Fan Mail How do you know? Where’s the proof? In this episode, Captain Integrity Bob Wade welcomes Lucia Pizano-Urbina of Broward Health to chat about life operating under a Corporate Integrity Agreement and the world of Compliance. Hear how to create a CIA Annual Report Subcommittee, always have a plan of correction for any item, be organized, learn the CIA (Corporate Integrity Agreement) inside and out, and check, check, check. Learn more at CaptainIntegrity.com

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Life and Learnings from a CIA (with Lucia Pizano-Urbina, Broward Health)

Episode Date: May 11, 2022

In this episode of Stark Integrity, host Bob Wade (“Captain Integrity”) is joined by Lucia Pizano-Urbina of Broward Health to discuss a topic many organizations hope to avoid—but should fully understand: life under a Corporate Integrity Agreement (CIA).

What Is a CIA?

A Corporate Integrity Agreement is typically imposed as part of a settlement with the government following compliance violations. It places an organization under heightened oversight, requiring detailed reporting, monitoring, and corrective actions.

As this episode highlights, operating under a CIA is not just a legal obligation—it is a full-scale operational commitment.

Life Under a CIA

Lucia shares real-world insights into what it takes to successfully manage a CIA, including:

  • Building strong internal structure and accountability
  • Creating dedicated committees (such as an annual report subcommittee)
  • Maintaining rigorous documentation and organization
  • Developing corrective action plans for identified issues

The overarching theme? Preparation and discipline are everything.

“How Do You Know?”

A key takeaway from this episode is the importance of being able to answer one simple question:
“How do you know?”

Under a CIA, assumptions are not enough. Organizations must be able to produce clear evidence that:

  • Policies are being followed
  • Controls are working
  • Compliance activities are effective

Proof—not intention—is what matters.

Practical Lessons for All Organizations

Even for organizations not under a CIA, the lessons from this episode are highly valuable. Key takeaways include:

  • Know your compliance program inside and out
  • Document everything clearly and consistently
  • Be proactive in identifying and correcting issues
  • Build systems that can stand up to scrutiny

In many ways, a CIA represents the highest standard of compliance discipline—and a model others can learn from.

Final Thoughts

This episode offers a rare, practical look into life under a Corporate Integrity Agreement. With insights from Lucia Pizano-Urbina, it highlights both the challenges and the opportunities to build a stronger, more effective compliance program.

The message is clear: whether or not you are under a CIA, adopting these practices can help ensure your organization is prepared, defensible, and aligned with regulatory expectations.

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